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The Legendary Leaders Podcast

Jan 16, 2020


In our 12th podcast episode in the Legendary Leaders series, we meet Ginny Baillie who is one of the first master certified coaches in the UK with over 20 years’ experience of coaching and founder of DRUM. Ginny talks about her current focus on working with self-sustaining and self-developmental organisations. She shares some guiding principles which is to be aware that we’re needed not possibly wanted at the beginning and wanted but not possibly needed at the end of the coaching process.


Ginny explains that the way that people ‘meet’ is highly important. By this she means having the confidence to listen and pay attention to someone else and trying stuff that can make you feel silly when meeting someone. Also, to understand even the quietest person in the room has something to contribute and parking your ego to listen and give your attention to others in the room.


Ginny talks to us about DRUM, which she describes as a vessel. She compares it to a drum that sits at the back of a band setting the rhythm and often starting things off. She explains how it involves leaders gathering around a theme, such as wanting to be a better leader or fear of failure. They gather with people curious about the same things through a 3-hour monthly video conference meeting, connecting with people all over the world.


Ginny talks about the importance of having confidence when it comes to how you like to do things as well as having confidence in your ideas. Essential to her success is her community of peers which she describes as what gets you through the challenging times. Ginny shares how hanging out with people who want to grow and learn too helps her to raise her own game.


Ginny leaves us with a few top tips for leaders in corporates including - never ever underestimate your influence.


In this episode you will learn: 

  • The importance of having confidence in yourself and your ideas

  • How DRUM helps leaders to connect with each other around a specific theme of interest
  • How people ‘meet’ and the importance of putting aside your ego and really listening and connecting with others at all levels


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About Cathleen:
As a trained Leadership & Mindset Coach, Facilitator and Keynote Speaker Cathleen supports high achieving but worn-out Women in Corporates create a more content & balanced life without sacrificing their hard-earned success. 
Cathleen focuses on women who lost their sense of purpose, who feel they are running in a hamster wheel, trying to please everyone but themselves. She helps people turn their careers around so that they start feeling fulfilled and excited again about the Mondays to come. 
Her proven 6-step "Legend Framework" helps Leaders go from feeling lost, lacking confidence and clarity about their career to owning their next career step, feeling at ease with themselves and others, excited about their future and able to tackle any obstacle that may get in their way. At the end of the process, Cathleen's clients will feel healthier, happier, energised and clear about their future. 
She works with action takers who really want to make an impact on the world around them - people who are driven by purpose. If you are a female high-achiever and you are ready to take your career to the next level whilst fully enjoying your personal life, then get in touch! 
With over 15 years of leadership experience in Retail, Media & Broadcasting, Engineering and Property Investment, Cathleen has not only experienced the challenges and opportunities of a leader herself, she has also been leading and supporting various leadership development projects within large, complex, multinational matrix organisations. These are exactly the experiences that made her choose to help leaders across the world step out of the “daily hamster wheel” and into a life of purpose, inspiration and courage to live a life on their own terms. 
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About Ginny Baillie MCC:


Coming from a background in property and stockbroking, Ginny’s voyage through supporting leaders to be the best they can be was inspired by her own shocking experience of working inside corporates. Gossip, innuendo, lies, scheming, career ruining management at worse and benign nothingness at best from various leaders led her to want to be part of the movement for better work experiences.


One of the first master certified coaches in the UK, with a body of experience spanning 22 years, Ginny’s work now is about connecting leaders with other leaders and their own resourcefulness through meeting in deep, rigorous and useful ways.  Her guiding principle is ‘how leaders meet is more important than what they talk about’ and the business is called DRUM.


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