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The Legendary Leaders Podcast

Nov 5, 2020


Do you have the right qualities to lead your team, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic? Did you know that you don’t need a designated hierarchy to be considered a leader in a setting? Leadership requires you to demonstrate the best behaviours which include honesty and giving people room to innovate and explore.


Paul Rose is an experienced TV presenter, radio broadcaster, adventure explorer, speaker and has been working (among other places) in the Antarctic and Greenland for over 25 years. He helps scientists unlock and communicate global mysteries in the most remote and challenging regions of the planet.


Paul recognizes the importance of trusting your instincts even in the classic work environment and being a leader that allows people to explore, develop and innovate.


Listen in to learn about the things that COVID-19 has brought to light, like the importance of protecting nature and the needed changes to do so. You will also learn about the qualities of a great leader in both - a setting of broader leadership of others and in self-leadership.


Key Takeaways:

  • The importance of honesty in leadership, especially during the COVID-19 crisis.
  • How to be serious about protecting nature which will in turn protect people’s health.
  • Learning how to accept where you are and giving yourself to something as part of self-leadership.
  • How not to overcomplicate things and instead help your team members to accept things as they are during hard times.



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Episode Timeline:

  • [0:42] Intro
  • [7:29] How Paul and Cathleen met, and the leadership inspirations he left Cathleen with as a result of this encounter.
  • [9:06] Paul describes his childhood and early adult life where he did a lot of outdoor activities and learned many skills that still have a major impact in his life.
  • [15:11] Why we should learn to trust our instincts in the classic work environment.
  • [17:23] How to be a leader that gives people room to explore, develop and a chance of innovating.
  • [18:32] The importance of displaying company and people’s values.
  • [20:57] The challenges and opportunities the pandemic has exposed that need change to make the world a better place.
  • [24:22] Paul talks about the book that he just wrote (in 3 months!).
  • [26:53] Learning to be honest with what you can control (and not control) as a leader.
  • [35:12] Why you don’t need to be the designated hierarchy leader to be a great leader in any setting.
  • [37:30] Learning to allow your team members to have their emotions without you analyzing them.
  • [39:31] Paul describes his most difficult internal journey of his life.
  • [42:50] He explains how he pauses in life and the last time he did so.


Standout Quotes:

  • “COVID has sharpened up my focus and I expect sharpening up the focus of most likeminded individuals and organizations.”- Paul Rose [23:31]


  • “You can’t do much about the storm, but what you can do is control the things you can control.”-Paul Rose [27:16]


  • “It’s just beautiful to see how many wonderful new ideas are coming out of this crisis.” Cathleen Merkel [32:14]


  • “Don’t worry too much about hierarchy or anything like that, just show the best leadership behaviors you can and be real.”- Cathleen Merkel [37:04]



Find | Cathleen Merkel


On Instagram: @CathleenMerkel

On Facebook: @CathleenMerkelCoaching

On LinkedIn: @CathleenMerkel



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About Cathleen: 


As a Thought Leader in the Mindset & (Self-) Leadership space, Cathleen supports high achieving, but worn-out women create a more content & balanced life without sacrificing their hard-earned success. Following a simple 6 step framework, she helps you not only reconnect with your inner feminine side; Cathleen also supports you to rediscover your REAL YOU!
Cathleen focuses on women who lost their sense of purpose, who feel they are running in a hamster wheel, trying to please everyone but themselves. She helps you to turn your careers, your social connections and personal life around so that you will start feeling fulfilled and excited again about the days to come.  
At the end of the process, Cathleen's clients will feel healthier, happier, energised and clear about their future.  
With over 15 years of leadership experience in Retail, Media & Broadcasting, Engineering and Property Investment, Cathleen has not only experienced the challenges and opportunities of a female leader herself, she has also been leading and supporting various leadership development initiatives within large, complex, multinational matrix organisations.


Only by deeply experiencing her very personal life challenges – ‘hitting a wall experiences’ –Cathleen was able to redefine her own purpose, deciding to bring ease and content to as many women as possible on the planet!



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About Paul Rose:



A man at the front line of exploration and one of the world’s most experienced science expedition leaders, Paul Rose helps scientists unlock and communicate global mysteries in the most remote and challenging regions of the planet.


Former Vice President of the Royal Geographical Society, Paul is Expedition Leader for the National Geographic Pristine Seas Expeditions.


The Royal Geographical Society has awarded Paul the Ness Award and the Founders Gold Medal.


A broadcaster, published author and journalist, Rose presents BBC television programs on current affairs, science and the environment.


He is Ambassador for the UN Basel, Rotterdam and Stockholm Conventions.


Paul was the Base Commander of Rothera Research Station, Antarctica, for the British Antarctic Survey for ten years and was awarded HM The Queen's Polar Medal. For his work with NASA and the Mars Lander project on Mt Erebus, Antarctica, he was awarded the US Polar Medal


A mountain in Antarctica is named after him.